Tag: eve trading

  • Un-TiDi Markets: Trying to untangle whatever is going on in The Forge and Metropolis

    Un-TiDi Markets: Trying to untangle whatever is going on in The Forge and Metropolis

    The Monthly Economic Report for February came out this past week, and while everything was down, I wanted to take the data from previous MERs to see if I could compare market regions to see where there was growth and where there was decline, specifically if the movement in Metropolis I discovered a few weeks ago was cutting into The Forge’s market share.

    When comparing just pure raw trade volume, The Forge, of course, dwarfs Metropolis by several times. That is no surprise. 

    When looking at the log scale, a pattern emerges. Both Jita and Hek follow each other in terms of peaks and valleys. Metropolis is almost always about a month behind. This, too, is unsurprising; after all, they exist in the same universe with the same player base and the same political happenings. But if you look closely at the ends of both graphs, where Metropolis ends higher in 01/26 than in 01/25, The Forge ends lower in the same period. 

    That signaled to me that there is something going on in those particular markets and led me to this graph below:

    In pegging performance to the beginning of 01/25 and its relative position throughout the year, Metropolis’ trade value grows quite significantly over time, whereas The Forge has been slowly declining over the past year in comparison to where it was in 01/2025. 

    There is something behind this growth from September until peaking in December. The implosion of PanFam in November clearly is what caused the contraction in both markets.

    I’ll temper my earlier conclusions that we are seeing Metropolis’ growth from EVEGuru Foundries in Metropolis, because while that is likely helping, Metropolis grew rapidly the month before. So, whatever is elevating Metropolis at that growth rate, EVEGuru Foundries is clearly going to tap into the existing market growth should it continue. This is also to say that while EVEGuru has yet to release production rates using their manufacturing rigs, it is unclear if EVEGuru will affect markets to any degree. It is too early to tell.

    When graphing the trade data with MER February 2026’s data, above, we are seeing that both regions are starting to slide in earnest.  If your portfolios are looking a bit rougher than usual, you are not imagining things.

    What is going on there is, of course, subject to further exploration in The Forge and the subject of next week’s brief. Is it due to sov null being too quiet (as mentioned above, PanFam’s implosion did burst both markets’ gains), seasonal trends in the user base, or due to timing based on FanFest and expansion plans? 

    Like the seasons, markets do come back to life eventually, and we’ll see if spring (or lack of) weather in the Northern Hemisphere or FanFest/Expansion help get the markets back in the right direction. Ultimately, with the New Player Experience likely to shake the markets up come later this year, and rumors of changes in market hubs, looking closely at the data seems to be pointing that change is afoot and The Forge/Jita’s dominance is potentially looking threatened.

    As always, interested in your thoughts. Write a comment or ask a question below.

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    Sources

    Python

    Jypter Notebooks

    Monthly Economic Reports 01/25-01/26 found on EVE Ref

    Monthly Economic Reports 02/26 EVE Online

    Personal conversations in Discord

    The Oz Discord Server

  • Wartime Economies: Swimming with the Ferox Navy Fishes

    Wartime Economies: Swimming with the Ferox Navy Fishes

    So as we have had a day without a scrimish between the expansionist Goonswarm/Imperium (Goons)and the PandemicHorde (Horde) after the Goons erected a Foritzer on the Horde’s Keepstar Grid in The Great Wildlands last month. Tonight, the Foritzer completes its achoring, basically meaning it is either fight or flight for the Horde (my intel has the Horde running, but who knows…).

    If successful, what will that mean for null sec, the Goons’ plans, and if PandemicHorde can keep going after all the dust settles remains to be seen, I, however, am interested in the ISK numbers of the Ferox Navy Issue, which was the hull that had the greatest destruction across both sides in the 04 June battle.

    I pulled the updated market data today and saw the final total volumes of the Ask/Sell and Bid/Buy markets of the Ferox Navy from yesterday, the 05th, and thought I would show my findings before the big party tonight, some time around 11pm EST USTZ.

    Observations

    Here we see that the inversion of the market, that I warned against, happens with a supply that begins to outstrip the demand for buyers. Sellers (the ask line) now can’t find a market in which support top dollar ask prices and either fill a much cheaper buy order or put up the hull on for a lower profit they could have gotten, but one that has diminishing returns.

    We see that in the next graphs:

    In the Ask Graph we see the big spikes, but then we see a drop after 2 June. When the Ask/Buy volumes switch with more Ask on the market, we see that price start to drop.

    The buy/bid price is also because now there are more buyers that can wait for the bids to be filled and they can command a better price because the going ask is now effectively now too high.

    As you can see, as the bid orders raise in price and when the ask orders shrink in price the spread changes are dramatic.

    As you can see here on the 27th of May, circled in fuchsia on both charts, the lowest ask volume is also when the change in the spread is largest, suggesting a rise in the ask price. The same thing happens on 2 June, with the points circled in purple.

    Analysis

    If you were an industrialist that got going with Ferox Navies after the Goons dropped the Fortizer, you probably caught the first wave if you were early enough. If you started producing after the Goons declared war, you probably caught the second wave after a couple of days of waiting. But if you were not in the market by 02 June, your luck ran out and the volume rises to the inversion of the market.

    From June 02nd and June 05th, the sell price dropped 15.42% as the volume went up 54.62%, showing just how fickle the market can be when there is a big war and a large destruction of hulls.

    Overall, it seems that the Ferox Navies were purchased by an alliance early on as there is that large glut of immediate sells and that crashed dramatically once the Goons dropped the Fortizer.

    It does look like the Goons were preparing for war before the Fortizer event, putting in bid orders for the hull well before war was ever declared and the Ferox Navies needed. The Horde went after the Rokh initially and that fleet was decimated, forcing them into the Ferox Navies in the 04 June battle, which was still resoundly destroyed by the Goons.

    Recommendations

    • Start your production of Ferox Navies (unless the doctrines change) at the first sign of trouble between null sec alliances. The producers that started production after June 02, trying to capitalize on the day’s jump, a couple of days after the war declaration, were way too late and effectively lost money in The Forge markets.
    • If you are central intel for your null sec alliance, keep your eyes on the market orders, there was movement way before anything was happening with the Goons, and while there is no guarantee those markets are moving because of another alliance, keeping tabs on doctrine hulls in the market can be a sly way of predicting movement of, well, at least someone.

    Let me know down below what your thoughts are on this war and potential battle for the ages? Did you get caught in that market volume inversion and now operating at a loss?

    If you need more in-depth information on the hull or others (Hearing there’s a need for the Vulture among both or just one) then feel free to contact me either in game at ‘Matt Shigella’, or online @godislobster on Discord or email me at mattshigella@gmail.com and we can talk about how I can get you the info you need.


    Sources

    Background Information

    Reddit

    Twitter

    Market Data and Code Framework

    Adam4Eve API

    EveRef

    EveTools – 04 June 2025, 03 June 2025

    Python

    • matlibplot.pyplot, pandas

    Jupyter Labs

    Anaconda Distribution